Things that make you say “WOW!”

We’re gonna dig deep into some really amazing people and topics — cultivating ideas about nature, the environment and conservation — in your backyard and globally. 

We want to share stories with you where the
only intention may be for you to say,
“Wow, I didn’t know that!”
…and now that you do, maybe you might think about your
relationship with it differently, share the information
with a friend or get involved.

Episodes

  • Disconnect to Reconnect: The Art of Forest Bathing

    Interview - Kira White

    What if spending time in nature could significantly improve your mental and physical well-being? In our latest episode, we explore the transformative practice of forest bathing with our esteemed guest, Kira White, a certified forest therapy guide. With her background in psychology and education, Kira will walk us through how immersing oneself in a forest environment can reduce stress, enhance mood, and promote overall health. Broadcasting from the serene East Foothills of San Jose, we discuss the origins of forest bathing in Japan and its scientifically-backed benefits, emphasizing the importance of reconnecting with nature in our increasingly urbanized lives.

    Kira White's website – Forest Bathing Collective

    Forest Bathing in Japan
    ForestBathingfinder.com
    Association of Nature & Forest Therapy

  • The Inspiring Return of the California Condor

    Interview - Monica Fox

    What does it take to bring a species back from the brink of extinction? "Two Chicks and a Hoe" welcomes Monica Fox, a dedicated veterinary technician at the Oakland Zoo, to share the incredible comeback story of the California condor. From the desperate days of the 1980s, when the condor population plummeted to just 22 birds, to the groundbreaking conservation efforts that have helped their numbers rebound, Monica provides a riveting account of the challenges and triumphs in the battle against extinction. Hear about the pivotal role of captive breeding programs, the ongoing fight against lead poisoning, and the innovative solutions like copper bullets that are making a difference. It's a testament to what can be achieved through collaboration and dedication.

    California Condor Picture donated by:
    Tim Huntington - webnectar.com

    US Fish and Wildlife Service

    California Department of Fish & Wildlife

    Los Angeles Zoo

    San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance

    Oakland Zoo

    Ventana Wildlife Society

    Peregrine Fund

    Yurok Tribe

  • Over & Under - Wildlife Corridors

    Interview - Dana Page

    Can wildlife corridors save species from the brink of extinction amid the relentless pace of human development? Two Chicks and a Hoe brings you an eye-opening conversation with Dana Page, a wildlife biologist from the San Francisco Bay Area, who sheds light on the vital role these passageways play in preserving biodiversity. This episode explores how corridors are essential for the movement, genetic diversity, and survival of species such as caribou, wolves, mountain lions, and even salmon. Dana offers her expert insights into the fragmentation of habitats, illustrated vividly with the challenges faced by mountain lions in the Santa Cruz mountains.

    Santa Cruz Puma Project

    Building the Largest Wildlife Crossing in the World

    26 Most Important Wildlife Crossings Across the Globe

    Milkweed Resources – Milkweed Watch “Engaging Citizens in Science”

    Coyote & Badger video

  • Embracing the Blaze: How 'Good Fire' Nurtures Our Forests and Traditions

    Interview - Dana Page

    From the ancient echoes of cultural fire management to the modern halls of policymaking, Dana Page weaves a tale of how indigenous wisdom is rekindling its rightful place in ecosystem balance. We traverse the complex path of integrating this ancestral knowledge into current conservation strategies, navigating the constraints of modern bureaucracy. Through the smoke, we glimpse the revitalizing power of fire, as it clears invasive species, nurtures biodiversity, and safeguards the future of our forests.

    Tribal and Indigenous Fire Tradition

  • No Judgement, Just Love. Project Street Vet

    Interview - Genesis Rendon

    Have you ever watched the sunset alongside a furry friend and felt an unparalleled sense of connection? That profound companionship is what we explore in our latest heart-stirring conversation, where Genesis Rendon from Project Street Vet reveals how the love between pets and their unhoused owners transcends all barriers.

    Our discussion honors the incredible work of those who provide health care to pets of the unhoused in Los Angeles, bringing to light emotional tales that exemplify resilience and the strength of the human-animal bond.

    Project Street Vet

  • Zero Waste - Taking the First Step, it's Not That Hard

    Interview - Heather Bedy

    Have you ever faced the mystery of what to do with your plastic waste? This episode doesn't just skim the surface of our plastic predicament; it provides a treasure map to navigate the jungle of sustainable living. We'll walk you through a world beyond the blue recycling bin, where refusing, reusing, and repairing become your new best friends.
    We explore the power of individual habit changes, like carrying a reusable water bottle or shopping in bulk, to mold a lifestyle that's as kind to the Earth as it is rewarding for you. While we acknowledge some adjustments might seem daunting, we're here to assure you that each step, however small, propels us closer to a healthier planet.

    Recycle Nation
    The Trash Punx
    Terra Cycle
    Baby Steps Toward a Zero-Waste Home
    At Home Trash Audit Steps

  • Drag Saved My Life: A Journey of Acceptance and Inspiration

    Interview - Alex Mondragon

    When Alex Mondragon, known under the spotlight as Belladonna, stepped into the world of drag, a bold tapestry of self-expression unfurled before them. Their journey, marked by the trials of growing up non-heteronormative and the quest for acceptance, is the beating heart of our latest episode. Through a candid conversation, Alex shares how drag became more than just an art form—it was the lifeline that anchored them in a community that celebrates identity and challenges societal norms, weaving a narrative that reaches beyond personal transformation to touch on broader cultural shifts.

    The Trevor Project
    LGBT National Help Center

  • The Invisible Journey of Your Morning Cup of Coffee!

    Interview - Mariana Faerron

    Ever wonder about the intricate journey of your morning java? Prepare to have your curiosity quenched. We sat down with coffee expert and industry innovator, Mariana Faerron Gutierrez, owner of Tico Coffee Roasters, to explore the complexities of the coffee industry. Brace yourself for a stimulating conversation as we traverse the terrain of coffee origins, growth methods, and environmental impact. Uncover the secrets behind the world's second most traded commodity and the factors that influence the taste of your favorite brew.

    Tico Coffee Roasters
    Tico Coffee Roasters Facebook

  • Erin Smith

    What the Flip Flop? Converting Waste to Wonder

    Interview - Erin Smith

    Prepare for a captivating podcast episode as we unravel the hidden crisis of discarded flip flops with Erin Smith, the CEO of Ocean Sole. From impoverished areas to our oceans, Erin unveils how these seemingly harmless items wreak havoc due to poor waste management in emerging markets.

    Discover the fascinating journey of flip flops, carried by ocean currents to our shores, becoming a significant part of marine debris. But there's hope in this story: Ocean Sole is transforming these waste products into incredible works of art, benefiting local communities and promoting environmental awareness. Learn how art and sustainability can unite to make a remarkable difference in our world. Tune in to be inspired by this journey of turning waste into wonder.

    Ocean Sole

  • Dr. Marker with dogs and goats

    Against All Odds: Ensuring the Survival of Cheetahs

    Interview - Dr. Laurie Marker

    Get ready for an inspiring discussion with the renowned conservationist, Dr. Laurie Marker, as she delves into the complex challenges confronting cheetahs today. "Cheetah Conservation" is not solely about saving these majestic big cats; it's also an exploration of the human-driven factors shaping their existence. Dr. Marker will enlighten us on the profound impact of our actions, from climate change to poaching, on this magnificent species.

    Cheetah Conservation Fund

    Meet Dr. Marker at Upcoming Events

  • man and dog

    Roadies, Rescues, and Second Chances: An Enlightening Conversation

    Interview - Paul Thomas

    Meet Paul Thomas, a front-of-house sound engineer who became an animal rescue hero during the pandemic. With his touring skills, a van, and a lot of love for dogs, Paul crafted an innovative solution he calls 'Roadies and Rescues'. This incredible initiative transports rescue animals from overpopulated areas to places with fewer animals, giving the animals a second chance at life, while providing purpose for those in the concert industry affected by the pandemic.

    Join us for an enlightening conversation where the world of touring merges with animal rescue, creating a harmonious symphony of hope and second chances.

    Roadies & Rescues Facebook

    Roadies & Rescues GoFundMe

  • body modified man

    Unjudge Someone: The Power of The Human Library

    Interview - Ronnie Abergel

    A book’s cover can sway many people to pick it up or skip it entirely.

    But could the way a person looks - you know, their “cover”, turn you away from talking to them? Would you not talk to someone because of the way they looked or a disability perhaps? Or the way they dressed? Or the God they turned to in times of need?

    The Human Library is a place where real people are on loan to readers. A place where difficult questions are expected, appreciated and answered.

    Join us for an amazing conservation with the Founder of The Human Library, Ronni Abergel - one that will certainly make you say “Wow! I love this idea!”

    The Human Library

    The Human Library Facebook

  • Silver Back Gorillas

    Gorillas, Cell Phones, and Saving the Environment: A Surprising Connection

    Interview - Eric Ronay

    Billions of us rely on our cell phones, and every year we are tempted and encouraged to get the next best upgraded version . . . and many of us do. But can an electronic gadget have an impact on wild gorilla populations?
    What is the connection between gorillas and your cell phone? We’re going to be chatting with a man that has been working with Zoos across the United States to bring awareness to this connection. Could we get to a point where cell phone providers might one day offer ‘Gorilla Safe’ cell phones?! Do we need that? Yes!

    Join us for a fascinating conversation with Eric Ronay, a Gadget Recycler and Ape lover that has been grappling with millions of discarded cell phones for over 20 years.

    Eco-Cell

    Cell phone recycling drop off locations

    Gorillas on the line

    Gorilla Species Survival Plan

    Virunga National Park

    Dian Fossey Gorilla Fund

  • kids cleaning up trash

    Cleaning Our World, One Piece of Trash at a Time - A Global Partnership from the Bay Area to Kenya

    Interview - Justin Imamura & Sabore Ole Oyie

    Plastic pollution poses a significant threat to our environment. Single-use plastic is manufactured to last forever, yet is often used for only a few minutes, before being thrown away.

    But this episode isn’t really about trash - it’s about hope and what a small group of people can do to start a change.

    It’s not about tackling the island of plastic floating in our oceans it’s about working with a small town in Kenya to create stewardship for their home.

    The Trash Punx

    Sabore’s Well

  • honey dripping off spoon

    From Flower to Hive: The Incredible Story of Honey and Bees

    Interview - Steve Demkowski

    Get ready to embark on an incredible journey into the world of honey with our special guest, Steve Demkowski, also known as the Bee Guy! Ever wondered how bees create that sweet, golden nectar we all love? Steve's expertise will guide us through the fascinating process of honey production, from the types of flowers bees visit to the distance they travel from the hive – all factors that affect the final product. And if that's not enough, prepare to have your mind blown by the amazing abilities of bees, such as sensing the charge of a flower and knowing when and where to collect nectar.

    Willow Glen Honey

    Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation

    National Wildlife Federation - Backyard Habitat Program

    Pollinator Partnership

    Pollinator Friendly Plant lists

  • bee on flower with pollen

    Declared the Most Important Species on Earth

    Interview - Steve Demkowski

    Part 2 of a 3-part interview with the “Bee Man”. Bees have been declared the most important living beings on this planet. Recent studies have shown a dramatic 90% decline in the bee populations in the last few years. The uncontrolled use of pesticides, deforestation or lack of flowers are the main reasons for their extinction.

    Don’t give up! Not all hope is lost - Steve tells us why bees are so important and what we can do to help them.

    Willow Glen Honey

    Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation

    National Wildlife Federation - Backyard Habitat Program

    Pollinator Partnership

    Pollinator Friendly Plant lists

  • water, well and happy man

    Changing a Culture with Water

    Interview - Maasai Warrior and Elder Sabore Ole Oyie and Therese Hjelm

    Can water be so powerful that it can actually change a culture?

    See how bringing water to a village has changed the entire culture of a Maasai community from opportunities for an education, having time for their families and providing water to the wildlife.

    On today’s episode we have the pleasure of chatting with a couple of amazing people that are changing a culture with water.

    Sabore’s Well

  • Image of a dog

    You talking to me or the dog?

    Interview – Heather Vrzal

    Language - it’s so much more than the spoken word of humans.

    There are so many ways to communicate - words and sounds, visually, touch, smells and energy. We don’t communicate in the same ways, yet can we trust each other if we communicate differently? Can we relate? Can I understand you?

    Connecting with other species is taking place all around us - all the time. Join long time animal professional, Heather Vrzal, as we discuss communicating with other species.

  • Bees in the hive around Queen

    Sex to Die For: The story of bee sex

    Interview – Steve Demkowski

    First of a 3-part interview with the “Bee Man’, Steve Demkowski, about the species recently declared the most important species on earth - bees.

    Bee sex is way more amazing than it sounds - for example, the male honeybee’s ejaculation is so strong we can hear it and his penis explodes after mating!

    Yep, that’s just the beginning of the fascinating sex life (or death) of bees.

    willowglenhoney.com

  • Coming Together in Common Purpose

    Coming Together in Common Purpose

    Interview - Benita Uruhisho

    Umuganda is an unknown practice to most of the world, but not to the small East African country of Rwanda. Rwandans have used the centuries old practice of Umuganda as one of the successful tools in rebuilding the country after the 1994 genocide. It’s a key factor in contributing to its capital city, Kigali, becoming the cleanest city in Africa.

    Hear about Umuganda and the impact it has had on an entire nation.

    Nyandungu Eco-Park

    Visit Rwanda

  • Lesser Long Nosed bat

    Discover the Fascinating Connection Between Bats and Tequila!

    Interview – Dr. Rodrigo Medellin &
    David Suro

    Bats and tequila? What? Yes! How can the conservation of this flying mammal have anything to do with the elixir known as tequila? We think you’re going to be so surprised to find out their connection and there is no better person to tell you about this relationship then world renowned National Geographic explorer, Ecologist and Senior Professor at the Institute of Ecology at the University of Mexico, Dr. Rodrigo Medellin. Salud - salt or no salt, come enjoy the party!

    Where to find Bat Friendly Tequila

    Tequila Interchange Project

    Siembrasuro Foundation

    Bat Conservation International

  • 2 birds

    Do birds have vaginas on their backs?

    Interview – The Naughty Zookeepers

    We’ve always wanted to know and yet could never quite figure it out, even with the diagrams! We found the perfect people to help us out, The Naughty Zookeepers, animal experts that are here to chat about the fascinating sex life of birds.

    The Naughty Zookeeper’s Twitch

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Meet the Host(s)

Introducing Vanessa, one half of the dynamic duo known as the "2 Chicks." With a globetrotting background and a deep connection to remote natural environments, my life's journey has ignited a profound passion for animals, humanity, and the preservation of our planet.
For 25 years, I served as the Conservation Director for a prominent Northern California conservation group. During my tenure, I spearheaded the creation of numerous global programs dedicated to safeguarding endangered species. Along the way, I had the extraordinary privilege of meeting countless individuals whose unwavering dedication to protecting our home left me in awe.

Where is the other Chick? Fear not, throughout the seasons, we will be sharing the microphone with esteemed "Guest Chicks." However, sometimes it will be just me and my beloved friend, Roxy (who you can see pictured with me). Together, we are thrilled beyond measure to bring you into the fold, offering a glimpse into the remarkable work and boundless passion of these incredible individuals.

Prepare yourself for an unforgettable journey as we delve into riveting topics alongside some extraordinary people. Brace yourself for moments that will undoubtedly elicit an exclamation of surprise: "Wow, I didn’t know that!"